Still plugging away on the DAWE families of Sth West Devon, many descendants of whom are descendants of my KING and BARTER ancestors.
Many of the KING/BARTER rellies have now been better documented as a result of this exercise, which has highlighted, yet again, how inter-related many of these families are!
Today's intriguing find is a couple who appear to have married twice within a month - and no it doesn't look like banns in both parishes.
Mary Maria Pitt GILES and William SPURRELL are indexed as marrying in Devonport, with the FindMyPast transcription showing this was 22 Oct 1913 at St John's.
FamilySearch has the image of a marriage licence in Cook Co., Illinois of a 36 yr old William SPURRELL of Chicago marrying a 33 yrs Mary Maria Pitt GILES on 11th Nov 1913!
In between there's an passenger list into Montreal on 5th Nov 1913 showing William, 36, and Mary, 33, as SPURRELL, both "married", with William's children, William and Joseph, from his prior marriage (which children are with their grandparents in Wembury in the 1911 census).
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Friday, 30 November 2012
Wednesday, 24 October 2012
Fewer DAWEs
Well, fewer DAWE trees on my DAWE page anyway.
Some of the Buckland Monachorum DAWEs were kind enough to leave wills that have survived.
One is that of Betty DAWE nee SCOBEL, widow of William DAWE of Dunwood, Tamerton Foliott, to whom I had assigned the William married to Joanna ATWILL, at least until I received my copy of said will and found that by 1843 Betty was referring to her son William as "late", but kindly left his widow Hannah a bequest.
The latter hint brought the family of William & Joanna/Hannah (HUNT) DAWE in from the cold, but shifted the William married to Joanna ATWILL to the family of William & Elizabeth (WILLOCKS) DAWE instead - the Williams had both been baptized in Meavy, a few short months apart, one to William & Betty, the other to William & Elizabeth.
The William married to Joanna/Hannah had to belong to Sampson and Marina somewhere given these names featured in their children.
We now know where.
Their daughter Marina has long been in my tree as wife of Henry DAWE, a descendant of both my BARTER and KING lines from the area. I calculate that this new connection makes them 3rd cousins.
Some of the Buckland Monachorum DAWEs were kind enough to leave wills that have survived.
One is that of Betty DAWE nee SCOBEL, widow of William DAWE of Dunwood, Tamerton Foliott, to whom I had assigned the William married to Joanna ATWILL, at least until I received my copy of said will and found that by 1843 Betty was referring to her son William as "late", but kindly left his widow Hannah a bequest.
The latter hint brought the family of William & Joanna/Hannah (HUNT) DAWE in from the cold, but shifted the William married to Joanna ATWILL to the family of William & Elizabeth (WILLOCKS) DAWE instead - the Williams had both been baptized in Meavy, a few short months apart, one to William & Betty, the other to William & Elizabeth.
The William married to Joanna/Hannah had to belong to Sampson and Marina somewhere given these names featured in their children.
We now know where.
Their daughter Marina has long been in my tree as wife of Henry DAWE, a descendant of both my BARTER and KING lines from the area. I calculate that this new connection makes them 3rd cousins.
Wednesday, 2 March 2011
CREBER vs CREBER
I shouldn't be getting sidetracked from assorted annual accounts, but this is so much more interesting.
Ancestry told me that someone had saved a record I'd used to someone in their tree.
That started me off on quite an update binge (still incomplete) of two lines of my very extended and extensive Devon families.
As both husband and wife were CREBERs, chances are they were related, but it was soon apparent that this brought together descendants of both my BARTER/KING and PIKE families.
I'd not got round to tracing either beyond the 1861 census, so hadn't worked out they'd married, thank you to bonsaitree's Green aka Creber tree on ancestry and his/her work there.
Husband Thomas CREBER and wife Mary CREBER were 1st cousins once removed, 3rd cousins and 4th cousins once removed.
And as I then documented their children, noticed that a daughter, Annie Elizabeth, had married a George PEARSE, so further lights started flashing.
Sure enough, he was already in my database, with a CREBER mother, so they were 1st cousins, 1st cousins once removed, and 4th cousins.
Ancestry told me that someone had saved a record I'd used to someone in their tree.
That started me off on quite an update binge (still incomplete) of two lines of my very extended and extensive Devon families.
As both husband and wife were CREBERs, chances are they were related, but it was soon apparent that this brought together descendants of both my BARTER/KING and PIKE families.
I'd not got round to tracing either beyond the 1861 census, so hadn't worked out they'd married, thank you to bonsaitree's Green aka Creber tree on ancestry and his/her work there.
Husband Thomas CREBER and wife Mary CREBER were 1st cousins once removed, 3rd cousins and 4th cousins once removed.
And as I then documented their children, noticed that a daughter, Annie Elizabeth, had married a George PEARSE, so further lights started flashing.
Sure enough, he was already in my database, with a CREBER mother, so they were 1st cousins, 1st cousins once removed, and 4th cousins.
Sunday, 26 September 2010
Enthusiasm vs accuracy
Contact from an enthusiastic, I presume, "newbie" to this wonderful hobby reminded me of the wisdom enshrined in the GPS.
No not one of those marvellous devices telling you where you are and how to get to where you should be instead, but the Genealogical Proof Standard.
To quote the Board of Certification of Genealogists (American)
"Proof is a fundamental concept in genealogy. In order to merit confidence, each conclusion about an ancestor must have sufficient credibility to be accepted as "proved." Acceptable conclusions, therefore, meet the Genealogical Proof Standard (GPS).
The GPS consists of five elements:
* a reasonably exhaustive search;
* complete and accurate source citations;
* analysis and correlation of the collected information;
* resolution of any conflicting evidence; and
* a soundly reasoned, coherently written conclusion.
Perhaps it is too much to ask of an enthusiastic newcomer happily copying data from trees found on the web and claiming relationships to people found there on the flimsiest of "evidence", but even the newest of newcomers should be able to distinguish between the possible and the impossible and do some basic checking, even if it is of other trees.
This little lecture being prompted from someone claiming to be my 7th cousin via the DAWs, stating that the relationship was from her Sampsons back to Philip, and down to my Isaac.
As I've never found any proof of a relationship between the Sampson DAWs of Buckland Monachorum, and my Isaac of Lumburn Mill/Tavistock, I asked what her evidence was for the connection.
None was forthcoming, but as one of the links quoted was for a John DAW b 1742 being married to Sarah MOORE, I smelt a rat in the "conclusions" being drawn.
John and Sarah (MOORE) DAW, are only possible parents for my Isaac (as outlined with doubts, on Isaac's page), and happen to have married in 1744.
A tad precocious for a 1742 birth.
A bit of digging on the other names mentioned led me reasonably quickly to my conclusion that her family was that of Joseph and Jenny (DAWE) DAWE who had family at Meavy before moving to the big smoke of London/Surrey.
That Joseph is highly UNlikely to be the Joseph son of Joseph and grandson of Sampson of Buckland Monachorum as his dates don't match, and most census data gives his birthplace as Cornwall, not that I've definitively identified where in Cornwall as yet (I presume somewhere close to the boundary with Devon as the 1861 census says Berehatton(?), Devon, the rest say Beer, Cornwall).
Regardless of the mis-links, it was an interesting exercise, as all of these families have many connections to mine, and one day, who knows, someone might pop out of the woodwork with all the missing links, with accurate source citations, and dates that gel.
It was also quite interesting seeing what others had for the same "families".
Just looking at two of the culprit trees with John (married to Sarah MOORE) shown as the son of Joseph and Elizabeth (CROSSMAN) DAW of Buckland Monachorum.
Several have John b 1742 marrying Sarah MOORE and Elizabeth REED, but with no dates for Sarah, although most do seem to have Isaac as their son and born 1769/70, so technically possible, if you ignore his siblings born 1745 +.
Another has John b. 1730, marrying Sarah MOORE in 1744, and Elizabeth REED in 1799, and dying in 1814.
Not absolutely impossible, but unlikely to be marrying at 14.
But if you look at the same tree from Sarah's viewpoint, she is shown as marrying two John DAWEs, one 1730-1813, the other 1724-1778, both "marriages" producing an Isaac of about the right dates.
For the record, I believe the 1742 John, son of Joseph and Elizabeth (CROSSMAN) married twice, firstly to my Elizabeth KING, and secondly to Elizabeth REED, with a son from this last marriage marrying Mary ANDREWS, another of my Devon relations.
All in all, quite an entertaining diversion from the real life stuff keeping me from this hobby rather too much at the moment.
No not one of those marvellous devices telling you where you are and how to get to where you should be instead, but the Genealogical Proof Standard.
To quote the Board of Certification of Genealogists (American)
"Proof is a fundamental concept in genealogy. In order to merit confidence, each conclusion about an ancestor must have sufficient credibility to be accepted as "proved." Acceptable conclusions, therefore, meet the Genealogical Proof Standard (GPS).
The GPS consists of five elements:
* a reasonably exhaustive search;
* complete and accurate source citations;
* analysis and correlation of the collected information;
* resolution of any conflicting evidence; and
* a soundly reasoned, coherently written conclusion.
Perhaps it is too much to ask of an enthusiastic newcomer happily copying data from trees found on the web and claiming relationships to people found there on the flimsiest of "evidence", but even the newest of newcomers should be able to distinguish between the possible and the impossible and do some basic checking, even if it is of other trees.
This little lecture being prompted from someone claiming to be my 7th cousin via the DAWs, stating that the relationship was from her Sampsons back to Philip, and down to my Isaac.
As I've never found any proof of a relationship between the Sampson DAWs of Buckland Monachorum, and my Isaac of Lumburn Mill/Tavistock, I asked what her evidence was for the connection.
None was forthcoming, but as one of the links quoted was for a John DAW b 1742 being married to Sarah MOORE, I smelt a rat in the "conclusions" being drawn.
John and Sarah (MOORE) DAW, are only possible parents for my Isaac (as outlined with doubts, on Isaac's page), and happen to have married in 1744.
A tad precocious for a 1742 birth.
A bit of digging on the other names mentioned led me reasonably quickly to my conclusion that her family was that of Joseph and Jenny (DAWE) DAWE who had family at Meavy before moving to the big smoke of London/Surrey.
That Joseph is highly UNlikely to be the Joseph son of Joseph and grandson of Sampson of Buckland Monachorum as his dates don't match, and most census data gives his birthplace as Cornwall, not that I've definitively identified where in Cornwall as yet (I presume somewhere close to the boundary with Devon as the 1861 census says Berehatton(?), Devon, the rest say Beer, Cornwall).
Regardless of the mis-links, it was an interesting exercise, as all of these families have many connections to mine, and one day, who knows, someone might pop out of the woodwork with all the missing links, with accurate source citations, and dates that gel.
It was also quite interesting seeing what others had for the same "families".
Just looking at two of the culprit trees with John (married to Sarah MOORE) shown as the son of Joseph and Elizabeth (CROSSMAN) DAW of Buckland Monachorum.
Several have John b 1742 marrying Sarah MOORE and Elizabeth REED, but with no dates for Sarah, although most do seem to have Isaac as their son and born 1769/70, so technically possible, if you ignore his siblings born 1745 +.
Another has John b. 1730, marrying Sarah MOORE in 1744, and Elizabeth REED in 1799, and dying in 1814.
Not absolutely impossible, but unlikely to be marrying at 14.
But if you look at the same tree from Sarah's viewpoint, she is shown as marrying two John DAWEs, one 1730-1813, the other 1724-1778, both "marriages" producing an Isaac of about the right dates.
For the record, I believe the 1742 John, son of Joseph and Elizabeth (CROSSMAN) married twice, firstly to my Elizabeth KING, and secondly to Elizabeth REED, with a son from this last marriage marrying Mary ANDREWS, another of my Devon relations.
All in all, quite an entertaining diversion from the real life stuff keeping me from this hobby rather too much at the moment.
Wednesday, 28 October 2009
Stray George Henry WARE - Jeweller anyone?
With all the Devon families getting a bit of a look in at the moment, one that got more attention was that of Nicholas WARE and Margaret King CREBER (those darn rabbit farmers). I'd "parked" a mysterious May WARE, grddtr with Margaret in 1881.
With the arrival on ancestry of a heap of London records I went searching, and found a marriage for her (to Alfred Edward GRIMES), which told me that her father was George Henry WARE, jeweller. Not a known (to me) son for Nicholas to either wife.
However, he can well fit in between Richard and Margaret Annie. But I can't as yet find him anywhere to confirm this.
The relevant Devon descendant charts have been updated: BARTER, KING, DAWE, CREBER
With the arrival on ancestry of a heap of London records I went searching, and found a marriage for her (to Alfred Edward GRIMES), which told me that her father was George Henry WARE, jeweller. Not a known (to me) son for Nicholas to either wife.
However, he can well fit in between Richard and Margaret Annie. But I can't as yet find him anywhere to confirm this.
The relevant Devon descendant charts have been updated: BARTER, KING, DAWE, CREBER
Tuesday, 13 October 2009
13th: Let me count the ways
How many variants can there be for finding the surname CREBER in the indexes?
A couple of marriage certs for Richard CREBERs turned up today, ordered after I got confused about the identification in 1841 of who Eliza was with.
(Eliza is the one from the other day's entry, who married Robert PEARCE, and sister of Henry CREBER, all of whom ended up in Ontario).
The best 1841 candidate was of a 21 yr old Eliza with a Richard (34) and Mary (35) at Yealamade, Sheepstor.
However, that Richard doesn't exactly look like her brother Richard, as he is more likely to be with wife Mary (GILES) at Welltown, Walkhampton.
The next most likely candidate, a cousin Richard, son of James CREBER and Agnes SPRY was married to 1st wife Margaret at the time (2nd wife Mary BALL didn't come along until 1844) and they appear at Huckworthy Bridge, Sampford Spiney as expected.
Looking at the other Richards in the timeframe led me to the 1801 Richard son of Richard CREBER and Elizabeth SPRY and I noticed that some ancestry trees provide him with a wife and family in London.
Took me a while to verify this, beyond the easily found, but inconclusive, marriage record to Elizabeth WARE.
Census data indexed them as CREBO (1851), ALBER (1861), COLBER (1871), and yes, one states he was born Walkhampton.
Yet another musical CREBER family, as Richard, and son Samuel are both enumerated as pianoforte makers.
Son Samuel added to the count, by being enumerated as CREVER (1861) but indexed as BREVER.
However, that didn't solve my mystery of the Sheepstor 1841 census Richard and Mary.
Creber, Barter and King descendant charts has been updated to include a few more twigs, as has the DAWE descendant chart, and a page for Honor DAWE (marr. to Nicholas/Henry COMBELLACK) has been added.
A couple of marriage certs for Richard CREBERs turned up today, ordered after I got confused about the identification in 1841 of who Eliza was with.
(Eliza is the one from the other day's entry, who married Robert PEARCE, and sister of Henry CREBER, all of whom ended up in Ontario).
The best 1841 candidate was of a 21 yr old Eliza with a Richard (34) and Mary (35) at Yealamade, Sheepstor.
However, that Richard doesn't exactly look like her brother Richard, as he is more likely to be with wife Mary (GILES) at Welltown, Walkhampton.
The next most likely candidate, a cousin Richard, son of James CREBER and Agnes SPRY was married to 1st wife Margaret at the time (2nd wife Mary BALL didn't come along until 1844) and they appear at Huckworthy Bridge, Sampford Spiney as expected.
Looking at the other Richards in the timeframe led me to the 1801 Richard son of Richard CREBER and Elizabeth SPRY and I noticed that some ancestry trees provide him with a wife and family in London.
Took me a while to verify this, beyond the easily found, but inconclusive, marriage record to Elizabeth WARE.
Census data indexed them as CREBO (1851), ALBER (1861), COLBER (1871), and yes, one states he was born Walkhampton.
Yet another musical CREBER family, as Richard, and son Samuel are both enumerated as pianoforte makers.
Son Samuel added to the count, by being enumerated as CREVER (1861) but indexed as BREVER.
However, that didn't solve my mystery of the Sheepstor 1841 census Richard and Mary.
Creber, Barter and King descendant charts has been updated to include a few more twigs, as has the DAWE descendant chart, and a page for Honor DAWE (marr. to Nicholas/Henry COMBELLACK) has been added.
Saturday, 6 December 2008
TURNBULLs (and excitement ) squared
What, December already? Doesn't time fly when you're having fun. Which I am.
Still working thru all the new Americans being added to the Devon TOZER branch (probably wont show up on the bottom end of the KING chart as mostly too recent).
And as if that isn't enough excitement for one week, but along comes a wonderful coincidence.
On the TMG Conference Cruise, I met up with Chaye from Sth Australia who was researching her mysterious OLIVER and TURNBULL couple who had the misfortune to die where death certs are not very informative.
I was very interested to note that one of the sets of parents she was investigating for her Elizabeth TURNBULL was a couple by the name of James and Agnes (ELLIOT) TURNBULL. They appear on the IGI as having children in the geographically challenging area of Dykehead, Kirkandrews, Canonbie, Dumfries.
Well, I suppose the submitter wanted to hedge their bets, and certainly the couple did too as they lived in Dykehead (which just happens to be the place of the comment "some more of those Americans dear" from the Nov 28th entry), in Kirkandrews Parish, Cumberland, but their children were baptised in Canonbie Parish, Dumfries, across the Border in Scotland.
Must be something about the air over there in this Turnbull family.
Anyway. I'd parked this as intriguing info to be investigated at some stage to see if there was any connection with my Robert TURNBULL, joiner of Dykehead, of about the same timeframes.
Today, that got raised up the priority list somewhat following receipt of an email from Robin in Canada asking about my Robert in Dykehead.
Yes, he was a descendant of said James and Agnes (ELLIOT) TURNBULL (but cannot solve Chaye's Elizabeth mystery, more's the pity).
We quickly decided that James and Robert could not be brothers. A 1764 baptism of a legitimate son to Walter and wife in Dykehead, just didn't fit with Walter, Robert's father, marrying as a bachelor in 1774.
However, James' likely mother was Betty also TURNBULL. Not that his baptism said so, but there were a string of Canonbie baptisms to Walter and Betty, several of which stated "in Dykehead", so it was an easy stretch to continue the string of children with the 3 "and wife in Dykehead".
That was James handily placed, but the connection to Robert still unsolved.
And then I examined a list of Canonbie baptisms Robin had downloaded from Scotland's People and noticed that I hadn't all the children of Walter and Betty (TURNBULL) TURNBULL after all. There were two sons I'd missed, a Robert and a Walter, which latter, got me quite interested in a hurry.
Sure enough, his baptism clearly showed he was the son of Walter TURNBULL and Betty TURNBULL in Dykehead, Parish of Kirkandrews. And what's more, a 1745 date dovetailed very nicely as a really good age to be marrying in 1774 and having children in Dykehead, to continue the family tradition.
No wonder I'd not been able to find a suitable baptism for him in England.
TURNBULL chart updated
Still working thru all the new Americans being added to the Devon TOZER branch (probably wont show up on the bottom end of the KING chart as mostly too recent).
And as if that isn't enough excitement for one week, but along comes a wonderful coincidence.
On the TMG Conference Cruise, I met up with Chaye from Sth Australia who was researching her mysterious OLIVER and TURNBULL couple who had the misfortune to die where death certs are not very informative.
I was very interested to note that one of the sets of parents she was investigating for her Elizabeth TURNBULL was a couple by the name of James and Agnes (ELLIOT) TURNBULL. They appear on the IGI as having children in the geographically challenging area of Dykehead, Kirkandrews, Canonbie, Dumfries.
Well, I suppose the submitter wanted to hedge their bets, and certainly the couple did too as they lived in Dykehead (which just happens to be the place of the comment "some more of those Americans dear" from the Nov 28th entry), in Kirkandrews Parish, Cumberland, but their children were baptised in Canonbie Parish, Dumfries, across the Border in Scotland.
Must be something about the air over there in this Turnbull family.
Anyway. I'd parked this as intriguing info to be investigated at some stage to see if there was any connection with my Robert TURNBULL, joiner of Dykehead, of about the same timeframes.
Today, that got raised up the priority list somewhat following receipt of an email from Robin in Canada asking about my Robert in Dykehead.
Yes, he was a descendant of said James and Agnes (ELLIOT) TURNBULL (but cannot solve Chaye's Elizabeth mystery, more's the pity).
We quickly decided that James and Robert could not be brothers. A 1764 baptism of a legitimate son to Walter and wife in Dykehead, just didn't fit with Walter, Robert's father, marrying as a bachelor in 1774.
However, James' likely mother was Betty also TURNBULL. Not that his baptism said so, but there were a string of Canonbie baptisms to Walter and Betty, several of which stated "in Dykehead", so it was an easy stretch to continue the string of children with the 3 "and wife in Dykehead".
That was James handily placed, but the connection to Robert still unsolved.
And then I examined a list of Canonbie baptisms Robin had downloaded from Scotland's People and noticed that I hadn't all the children of Walter and Betty (TURNBULL) TURNBULL after all. There were two sons I'd missed, a Robert and a Walter, which latter, got me quite interested in a hurry.
Sure enough, his baptism clearly showed he was the son of Walter TURNBULL and Betty TURNBULL in Dykehead, Parish of Kirkandrews. And what's more, a 1745 date dovetailed very nicely as a really good age to be marrying in 1774 and having children in Dykehead, to continue the family tradition.
No wonder I'd not been able to find a suitable baptism for him in England.
TURNBULL chart updated
Friday, 28 November 2008
"Another American dear"
Contact from a 7th cousin once removed on the KING branch. Dennis posted a comment on my GenBlog, which nicely sent me an email to say so, unlike the Guestbook, which relies on my remembering to check it.
His gt grandparents, Charles and Bessie TOZER emigrated to Oregon, Wisconsin in 1912. His guestbook entry tells me I'd written to a cousin of his who couldn't read my writing, which puzzle as to whoever it was, and why handwritten, will no doubt be resolved in due course (I usually type my letters, for that very reason!)
Anyone curious why the title? One of my enduring memories of a trip to England was turning up in a farmyard nr Longtown and asking if we might look around the farm yard "as my x greats grandfather had been a carpenter here". Accent recognition wasn't one of the farmer's strong points as he turned back to someone inside the house and said "It's just some more of those Americans dear".
So I couldn't resist it as a title to finding I've another American cousin.
Fully replublished the Originals subsite of Big Brother. That should tidy up a few missing links that Google Web developer tells me I had, but I've also consistently added the link back to further info on Big Brother where appropriate (which is why it looked like I'd been particularly busy on the 22nd Nov if you go by 'recent changes').
His gt grandparents, Charles and Bessie TOZER emigrated to Oregon, Wisconsin in 1912. His guestbook entry tells me I'd written to a cousin of his who couldn't read my writing, which puzzle as to whoever it was, and why handwritten, will no doubt be resolved in due course (I usually type my letters, for that very reason!)
Anyone curious why the title? One of my enduring memories of a trip to England was turning up in a farmyard nr Longtown and asking if we might look around the farm yard "as my x greats grandfather had been a carpenter here". Accent recognition wasn't one of the farmer's strong points as he turned back to someone inside the house and said "It's just some more of those Americans dear".
So I couldn't resist it as a title to finding I've another American cousin.
Fully replublished the Originals subsite of Big Brother. That should tidy up a few missing links that Google Web developer tells me I had, but I've also consistently added the link back to further info on Big Brother where appropriate (which is why it looked like I'd been particularly busy on the 22nd Nov if you go by 'recent changes').
Monday, 25 August 2008
Aug 25, 2008: TOOP update
BARTER descendant chart updated to include all of the TOOP descendants I already had in my database but not published. Most have had their basic birth/death/marriage data confirmed where I was able, and in checking this, and some census data off, one or two other extended family members were found and updated, mostly CREBERs.
This newfound connection makes Sarah Ann KING and her husband Robert John Newcombe TOOP related as both 1st, 3rd and 5th cousins!
NB some online trees have the John TOOP who married Sarah WILLCOCK as dying 19 Apr 1836. He was buried at Buckland Monachorum, the burial entry of 23 Apr 1834 showing him as aged 68, of Whitchurch. I therefore suspect that the day and month might be correct, but a couple of years out.
This newfound connection makes Sarah Ann KING and her husband Robert John Newcombe TOOP related as both 1st, 3rd and 5th cousins!
NB some online trees have the John TOOP who married Sarah WILLCOCK as dying 19 Apr 1836. He was buried at Buckland Monachorum, the burial entry of 23 Apr 1834 showing him as aged 68, of Whitchurch. I therefore suspect that the day and month might be correct, but a couple of years out.
Saturday, 3 May 2008
May 2, 2008: Yet another Northumberland copper
The newfound descendant (Margaret Elliot WIGHT) of John WIGHT and Jessie HOPKIRK turns out to have married a David KING, confection baker from Ayr.
Brother John Adam T WIGHT moved south, at least temporarily, as in 1901 he shows up as a police constable in Corbridge, Northumberland,, although it looks like he may have stayed south and joined my growing collection of Northumberland constabulary relations, as there's a marriage in 1902 to either Elizabeth PERCIVAL or Margaret BELL, and a birth of a Janet Hobkirk WIGHT in Rothbury in 1909 that looks like it might match this family. I suspect Elizabeth is the more likely candidate as she appears to be in Corbridge in 1901 and was born in Rockcliff, Cumberland, which would fit with the Brampton Cumberland marriage.
Sister Helen Thomson WIGHT married a Robert Baptie CAMPBELL, stone mason and was living Heiton in 1901. WIGHT tree updated.
Brother John Adam T WIGHT moved south, at least temporarily, as in 1901 he shows up as a police constable in Corbridge, Northumberland,, although it looks like he may have stayed south and joined my growing collection of Northumberland constabulary relations, as there's a marriage in 1902 to either Elizabeth PERCIVAL or Margaret BELL, and a birth of a Janet Hobkirk WIGHT in Rothbury in 1909 that looks like it might match this family. I suspect Elizabeth is the more likely candidate as she appears to be in Corbridge in 1901 and was born in Rockcliff, Cumberland, which would fit with the Brampton Cumberland marriage.
Sister Helen Thomson WIGHT married a Robert Baptie CAMPBELL, stone mason and was living Heiton in 1901. WIGHT tree updated.
Sunday, 20 April 2008
Apr 19, 2008: Less ROWEs?
Having fun working through my photographs of Marion's treasure trove of ROWE and DAWE letters.
Interesting to see that the KING family get a mention in 1902 (Walter had just died and James was at Hatchell), and that the Williamstown Melbourne DAW contingent (David, son of Isaac, and brother to Honour and Thirza) appear to have been in regular contact with the Melbourne BROOKINGs, even though they weren't related, the connection being via the ROWEs.
But more importantly, I think I've just subtracted one from the family of William & Honour (DAWE) ROWE. I've never managed to find corroboration of the Fanny I'd ascribed to the family, born 25 Aug 1863, and also never managed to find corroboration of her brother Henry's birth. A scrap of paper amongst the letters may have solved this, as it gives Henry's birth as 25 Aug 1863. So either I've misread Fanny from my original source, or the original source was wrong. At the moment I'm tending to the idea that Fanny is a figment of my imagination.
The same scrap of paper has my Matthias' birth as 19th September 1852, instead of the 9th Oct I had. What do others have?
Interesting to see that the KING family get a mention in 1902 (Walter had just died and James was at Hatchell), and that the Williamstown Melbourne DAW contingent (David, son of Isaac, and brother to Honour and Thirza) appear to have been in regular contact with the Melbourne BROOKINGs, even though they weren't related, the connection being via the ROWEs.
But more importantly, I think I've just subtracted one from the family of William & Honour (DAWE) ROWE. I've never managed to find corroboration of the Fanny I'd ascribed to the family, born 25 Aug 1863, and also never managed to find corroboration of her brother Henry's birth. A scrap of paper amongst the letters may have solved this, as it gives Henry's birth as 25 Aug 1863. So either I've misread Fanny from my original source, or the original source was wrong. At the moment I'm tending to the idea that Fanny is a figment of my imagination.
The same scrap of paper has my Matthias' birth as 19th September 1852, instead of the 9th Oct I had. What do others have?
Friday, 21 March 2008
Mar 20, 2008: Untangled TOZERs
Corrections made to the TOZER/DAYMOND portion of the KING chart thanks to a posting in my Guestbook by Eileen D.
Tuesday, 14 August 2007
July 22nd - 26th, 2007
22nd-26th: Contacted by a descendant of the Buttshead Mill KING/OYNS families of St Budeaux which lead to several updates. These will be reflected in the KING chart, thank you Roger.
I've found the RICHARDSON descendant who was knighted. In the process of exploring this line of the family I found yet another Berwickshire FAIRBAIRNs, but haven't as yet linked them to my lot. Can anyone shed light on the family of the Rev Andrew Martin FAIRBAIRN's Scottish forbears? His parents were John FAIRBAIRN and Helen MARTIN, and John's parents were James FAIRBAIRN and Helen TAIT of Legerwood.
I've added Sir Robert Russell SCOTT to the Rootsweb pages, and assorted updates to the RICHARDSON/SCOTT families will be reflected in the RUNCIMAN chart as a result.
I might even have a go at editing Wikipedia as it seems rather a come-down from being a head wallah in the Civil Service to find that references to him on Wikipedia lead you to an entry for Blinkie the Clown!
I've found the RICHARDSON descendant who was knighted. In the process of exploring this line of the family I found yet another Berwickshire FAIRBAIRNs, but haven't as yet linked them to my lot. Can anyone shed light on the family of the Rev Andrew Martin FAIRBAIRN's Scottish forbears? His parents were John FAIRBAIRN and Helen MARTIN, and John's parents were James FAIRBAIRN and Helen TAIT of Legerwood.
I've added Sir Robert Russell SCOTT to the Rootsweb pages, and assorted updates to the RICHARDSON/SCOTT families will be reflected in the RUNCIMAN chart as a result.
I might even have a go at editing Wikipedia as it seems rather a come-down from being a head wallah in the Civil Service to find that references to him on Wikipedia lead you to an entry for Blinkie the Clown!
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